Looking at the Shared Concourse Article

"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips)
08/14/2014 at 11:51 • Filed to: None

It still amazes me how stupid people are:

"There are reasons why white gun's rights activists can !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! and be seen as gauche nuisances while unarmed black men are killed for reaching for their wallets or cell phones, or carrying children's toys."

This is a fantastically relevant point that anyone itching to rebut this piece really ought to consider before they do - I can't imagine a situation in which a group of machine-gun-toting black men walk down the street that doesn't end with a massive tactical response, regardless of the particular geographic location's concentration of gung ho second amendment advocates.

Anti-gun people still don't know what an ASSAULT RIFLE is. An assault rifle is a gun with the capability to fire fully automatic. Pretty much every "assault" rifle used in the last 20 years in a murder, has been a variation of the AR15 SEMI-Automatic rifle. They are in no shape or form an Assault Rifle, until they are illegally(unless licensed) tampered with to fire automatically. Also, how the fuck could you bring up gun reform now? Do think the police is here to protect you know?

Here is a bobbed duece for your time:

DISCUSSION (23)

Milky > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/14/2014 at 11:59

Honestly I imagine its like us car people and car based SUVs to BOF SUVs. To 90% of the population they look the same, even though they are vastly different.

IMO its not really that big of a deal.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Milky
08/14/2014 at 12:03

It depends on how far the vast majority of stupid people take it. Once again, they don't look at the police and say "Hey, maybe the second amendment is on to something.", they still somehow believe they are there to protect them. Many an officer has came out and said the gun is to protect himself, not others.

Leadbull > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/14/2014 at 12:11

That's just nitpicking, and it's not relevant to the article (although I have my own issues with that article).

yamahog > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/14/2014 at 12:12

Yeeeesh. Terminology issues aside, there's a terrible disparity when a bunch of white dudes routinely open-carrying ARs are painted as patriots protecting their rights and a black dude is killed because someone called the cops on him for looking at an air gun at Walmart.

Also, I don't see any open-carry activists protecting protesters from overmilitarized cops either. If police were trying to protect themselves, they'd be staying in their armored vehicles. More from vets on this here .

jariten1781 > yamahog
08/14/2014 at 12:17

Nah, only among fringe elements are the open-carry groups considered patriots. The vast majority of gun owners consider them morons who are doing nothing but riling up people who are anti-gun or just generally unfamiliar with firearms.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > yamahog
08/14/2014 at 12:21

Yes, but the comment above garnered over 1000 favorites. A factually incorrect statement, garnered 1000+ favorites. Also, the open carry activists know it is a no win situation. They protect against cops, they become cop killers. If they protect the cops, they become a radical militia. No matter what any second amendment activist does, it immediately gets painted as an act of terrorism by CNN or MSNBC. Yet, some people still believe in those two.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Leadbull
08/14/2014 at 12:22

The fact is, the irrelevant comment I quoted got 1000+ favorites. 1000+ people have got sucked in by the media to believe every gun is an assault rifle.

yamahog > jariten1781
08/14/2014 at 12:26

Unfortunately, the NRA is a bigger influence in this country than the responsible gun owners they are supposed to represent, and they withdrew their initial statement against the open carry protests. White open carry activists are not being shot in the streets like too many unarmed men have been lately.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/14/2014 at 12:30

The problem with fungible terms is that they never mean what you think they mean.

To me, an assault rifle is a "short, compact, selective-fire weapon that fires a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges."

Oh wait, that's the US Army definition. As opposed to "Scary black gun, possibly with a shoulder thing that goes up."

And on the subject, I didn't say anything on the QOTD of "Do you correct someone about their car?" Because that question is really "Do you, as a technical person, correct a non-technical person about misuse of technical language?"

It pains me to say that I fall on the side of "Yes." You can't arbitrarily redefine a term because you want to sound technical, but you don't know what the technical definition means.

#1 thing I hear when I correct someone, "Oh, well you know what I mean."

Sensei: "No, I don't know what you mean. Because what you mean, and what you are saying are rapidly diverging to the point of being completely meaningless."

yamahog > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/14/2014 at 12:34

In this country, a factually incorrect statement (birth control causing abortions) is the basis of Hobby Lobby's "closely-held beliefs" to deny insurance coverage to their employees and has now opened a Pandora's box from hell. I'm a lot less concerned about a paltry 1000 internet points over someone confusing AR for assault rifle.

So if you don't open carry to protect yourself from police controlling rather than protecting the population (a defining characteristic of fascism), what are you protecting any more? I'm not following any news networks on this one, just listening to my friends in Missouri, and it is scary.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > yamahog
08/14/2014 at 12:39

Family, the hundreds of times someone legally carrying has ended a gunpoint robbery, or the times a mass shooting has been brought down by a carrier, so there are plenty of things to protect other than just our rights.

yamahog > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/14/2014 at 12:43

"Just our rights." :(

http://thedailybanter.com/2014/08/two-am…

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs
08/14/2014 at 12:44

There is a VAST difference between the two. The media doesn't go on colorful, nonfactual, and ridiculous rants painting the picture that " A Prius is one of them sports car, ricer things that are running people off the road.", and say that they need to be banned. They do however paint the picture, that if someone owns a gun that is black and can hold more than 10 rounds, then they definitely are a terrorist and should be deported. Yet at the same time, worship the Presidency that is largely responsible for the ever so "successful" Fast and Furious agenda. The one that put actual assault rifles in the hands of cartels, that Fast and Furious.

Sportwägen, Driver Of The Red Sportwagen > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/14/2014 at 12:48

I honestly could care less what others think. My issue is when they start trying to force their opinions in my face or make me look bad because of what I believe in..... guns for example.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > yamahog
08/14/2014 at 12:57

Here is the difference, in Ferguson they were/are rioting more than protesting. The Bundy Ranch case went a little deeper than that paragraph explains. The govt. wasn't there for taxes. They were there because 2 of his cattle ended up on federal property for "a rare turtle." They are wasting tax payers money on the upkeep of thousands of acres for literally a few turtles, sure, it's just turtles out there. So they brought the military with them for a couple cows on thousands of acres? Or even if it was just taxes, they brought some military back-up? I'm pretty sure they backed off, because they knew he didn't find anything else out there.

user314 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/14/2014 at 12:57

Link to the Media Guide to Guns , in lieu of an image post.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > user314
08/14/2014 at 13:00

That's pretty accurate. I still remember when Nancy Grace I think it was, referred to a pump shotgun as an assault shotgun.

yamahog > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/14/2014 at 13:10

The opportunistic rioting/looting from out-of-towners stopped after the first night, protests remained, and yet only in Ferguson is tear gas (banned in warfare under international law) still being used on unarmed citizens with their hands in the air, some of which are being shot and killed in the streets, and the local PD is finally being pulled out after illegally detaining reporters (big PR no-no). Whereas large crowds of people pointing guns at law enforcement in Bundy are apparently no threat. Also, during the NATO protests in Chicago a few years ago, the middle class white protesters were throwing bottles, bricks, rocks, etc at CPD with no police retaliation, just crowd control. Seriously unsettling disparity at hand.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > yamahog
08/14/2014 at 13:27

Here is the difference, the NATO protests were in Chicago where violence is statistically the norm. Would the police have even been brought in at full force, had the looting and rioting not kicked off the protest? Probably not as forcefully. Whose idea was it that starting a riot proves the kid was innocent? There is no excuse to why the rioting and looting civilian businesses started in the first place. The rioters and looters should have been shot down, literally, before any of this got out of hand.

jariten1781 > yamahog
08/14/2014 at 13:35

They happily rolled the Branch Davideans killing 87 white, gun toting, conservative, religious folks. Women and children and all. Including 30 or so Brits. Been this way for a while.

yamahog > jariten1781
08/14/2014 at 13:58

You're comparing an ATF raid that resulted in a shootout killing 4 federal agents to a protest where the only fatalities have been unarmed civilians.

jariten1781 > yamahog
08/14/2014 at 14:10

Just saying if overly aggressive, overly armed 'law enforcement' wants to steamroll someone they're going to for whatever reason they find or concoct. The kids down in Waco had nothing to do with the illegal activities of the church leaders; most of the community has nothing to do with the illegal activity of the looters. However, the police found an enemy and are in search and destroy mode. When they're significantly more heavily armed than their targets everyone becomes collateral damage regardless of color, creed, or age.

yamahog > jariten1781
08/14/2014 at 14:49

Except the threshold for retaliation is clearly not equal, and just saying "well, the cops are killing everyone, look at that one federal raid turned shootout" does not make it any better.

Four federal agents killed in Waco vs looting and non violent protest.

Open carrying an AR without police involvement vs a man killed by police for looking at a air rifle in Walmart.